What Does the Fourth Dimension Actually Look Like?
Hosted by Janna Levin, Steven Strogatz
Published Oct 1, 2026
53 min
About
Mathematician Maggie Miller of the University of Texas at Austin joins Janna Levin and Steven Strogatz to explore knots, surfaces and four-dimensional topology. They discuss why loops can untangle in four spatial dimensions while two-dimensional surfaces can remain knotted, how three-dimensional snapshots help visualize 4D spaces, and Miller and collaborators’ resolution of a knotted-surface question posed by Charles Livingston in 1982. The conversation also connects visual techniques from art with mathematical reasoning.